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Ben Kerry's avatar

Actually, according to Wikipedia, Nazi Germany had a degree of idealization of agricultural societies, which are believed to be purer and "folkish" than degenerate urban areas. See the parallels?

The kind of American "low-density fantasy" is actually a pretty interesting phenomenon, I think it started with the 70s when the first smear campaign against urban areas started.

Also, another case study would be Gaulist France with the mass use of militant groups and political destabilization, also veterans radicalized by failed foreign counterinsurgencies.

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There is also a conservative resentment that generally lurks beneath the surface, eager to tell those concerned, "Why can't we tell the military to shut up when *we* want something done, for once? It was the liberals who told our greatest general to stop short of victory in Korea. To water down victory again in Vietnam to some nonsensical bean-counting exercise from RAND." To say nothing of desegregation, though fewer will publicly oppose that now of course.

For better or worse it also seems the AVF force is one less likely to take a stand in a situation like this. That's what professionalism is about. But it's also the trade-off you get with a more professional force, which shares conservatives' instinct of liberal democracy as one of a state of emergency (balancing against commune-ism in the 19th century, fighting against fascism and Communism in the 20th century, etc.) Which is why they have few qualms with the war-derived powers Trump is now using.

For liberals, liberal democracy is instead more about rule of law. Which is a homefront thing, and thus easier to focus on if you've never really had to interact much with the emergency/violent part -- as is the case with many Democratic leaders, all now of the AVF world and most having thus never served. Janowitz haunts Huntington even from the grave.

Wrote a bit on the MacArthur part of this recently: https://open.substack.com/pub/damnthetorpedoes/p/from-little-boy-to-the-yalu-modern?r=5vggye&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

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